I learnt that Peter’s friend found the collapse of 911 twin towers to be symbolic of love and work in his life, which serves as a narrative that speaks truth, without confronting truth directly, which would otherwise be overwhelming or traumatising.
Similarly, tarots serve as a tool for us to find the other side through objects and images, and confront the truth that was repressed.
I learnt that the role of the tarot card reader is to facilitate the curiosity and conversations with others’ unconscious.
Like Elliott noted, some cards may or may not confirm anything, and if a good reading of a card does confirm something, then it is like we encounter our soul revealing to ourselves.
As Peter noted, that’s why we need rituals such as lighting the candles, for if the truth that sets us free is confronted without mediation, it may be too disturbing, hence we need a mediated form, whether it be tarots or religious rituals or art or analysis etc.
I also learnt that another of Peter’s friends, who was helped, eventually did well and years later went into the crypto world, and helped him understand that world.
Last but not least, I learnt that according to a philosopher, in order for humanity to know itself, it first has to put itself somewhere in the world, and it sees that externally, and then eventually it has to pull it back in.
For example, the notion of a religious god or a celebrity is a projection of humanity writ large, whereby we come to know ourselves as in a mirror.
It is interesting to see the synchronicity happening when Elliott’s friend Grace remarked that Peter looked like a magician on his Instagram profile, and then upon Peter’s visit, they happened to see his book “Divine Magician” on his book shelf.
I also tend to subscribe to the guideline of having two or more coincidences in order to consider something like divine synchronicity, like a verse says “By the mouth of two or three witnesses, every truth shall be established.”
The interview also got me thinking that maybe Jesus was also adept at psychoanalysing people.
For example, when the Pharisees brought a woman before him and accused her of adultery, maybe they were projecting their own guilt onto the woman, who became the scapegoat for their wrongdoings.
And Jesus defended the woman by telling them “he who is without sin throw the first stone”, and being convicted of their own guilt, they left the scene one by one.
It is also symbolic of how Jesus eventually became the ultimate scapegoat for the society as the Jews and Romans refused to deal with and reconcile their own differences and conflicts with one another, and yet they (symbolised by King Herod and Pontius Pilate) became “friends” temporarily on the day they joined forces to crucify Jesus.
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